I knew of Cleveland, but he didn't run for a 3rd term - he only ran 3 times as Carr pointed out (the 2nd and 3rd times he ran were for a 2nd term).
I knew of Cleveland, but he didn't run for a 3rd term - he only ran 3 times as Carr pointed out (the 2nd and 3rd times he ran were for a 2nd term).
I thought Wilson didn't run for a third term. He might've considered running, but didn't go thhrough with it when he became paralyzed. He hated being president.
Bush, I could use that tax money...
Just how much tax money does a 17 year old (18?) Sith Lord have to pay anyway?
Sorry - you and Carr are right. I confused Wilson's 1919 nationwide campaign to get acceptance of US involvement in the Legue of Nations as a presidential campaign for a 3rd term (that didn't occue until a year later). He suffered a stroke(?) whilst touring and was an invalid for the rest of his life. He didn't run for a 3rd term.I thought Wilson didn't run for a third term.
THe US once had a paralysed President? How long was in power for after the stroke?
Only a year or so. Apparently (if my knowledge of history is correct) the government was in a dilemma after it happened because there was (maybe still is?) no law stating who took charge if the President was ill and incapable of leading government.
If I remember right, I think Wilson's wife took a prominent role in his care and in many White House duties. I believe the government was basically being run by a select few members of Wilson's cabinet with the Secretary of State playing a major role.
There are some historians that believe that Wilson's wife did more than just take care of him. I have read in a few books that she signed presidential documents and did a few other presidential duties, nothing really major but still she played a major role while he was paralized. Realize it was a huge secert there was no CNN to uncover the truth, almost no one knew except for a few key people in the white house like the Sec of State and members of cabinet, the rest of the country was basically in the dark.
That's an interesting theory and one I've heard before. I wouldn't be surprised if she did take an active roll. But I wouldn't go out on a limb and say it's true especially since I can't even remember her name off the top of my head. But I can see a wife working behind the scenes and making those kinds of decisions. Especially back in 1918, a time when secrets like that could be kept. That would never be possible today. Unless your watching an Ivan Reitman (sp?) film; Dave.
I've heard that President Harding had an even busier private life than Bill Clinton.Especially back in 1918, a time when secrets like that could be kept.
There currently is a law governing such an occurance. Amendment 25 of the Constitution:the government was in a dilemma after it happened because there was (maybe still is?) no law stating who took charge if the President was ill and incapable of leading government.
Makes one wonder. Wouldn't the Vice President taking charge make the most sense, even without the amendment outling such an occurance?ARTICLE XXV
Section 1.
In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.
Section 2.
Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.
Section 3.
Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.
Section 4.
Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office; the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.
I mean, it does say this in Article II Section 1 of the Constitution itself:
In Case of Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation, or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
If the Redskins win today, Gore will win
GO REDSKINS!
...myself. Going back to the whole who ran 3 times thing U.S. Grant ran for a 3rd time as well. Not in a row though....he took like a 4 year hiatus after his second term. Teddy Rosevelt didn't run for a 3rd term in a sense...he finished up McKinley's term(McKinley dies within his first year in office) so in a sense he just had one term of his own.
Hey, I just found this quiz on the web. It's called the World's Smallest Political Quiz, and it shows you where on the political diamond (the new figure they're using--determines whether you're a libertarian, authoritarian, liberal, conservative, or centrist). It also eliminates that stupid left/right-only spectrum, thank goodness. Anyway it's pretty interesting, thought you guys would like to check it out.
www.self-gov.org/wspq.html
On the point about Harding, He easily was the greatest womanizer of all our presidents the man had his mistress come into his white house all the time and they had sex in the oval office he constantly was trying to keep his wife from finding out. The mistress even fathered a child by him. There are rumors, not sure if they are true, that he died in the arms of his mistress. They might be lies but still it shows how much of a sexually driven man he was. On a side note the Harding administration was the most corruption presidential administration in our history. There were at least 10 scandles including the huge Tea Pot Dome scandal in which the Sec. of Interior stole millions from the government. No one knows how much Harding knew, but still all the scandals were commited by people he had hand picked so it was his fault in the end.
...but you have to be a total idiot to vote for Nader. That guy is a retard, he is a communist piece of trash. Are you really that liberal that you would vote for RALPH NADER?!?! THE GREEN PARTY?!
You have got to be kidding me. Damn. This forum is extremely liberal if Nader is tied with Bush.
Clinton was a horrible president, he didn't do much of anything right, the only reason it seems as though things are going well for our country is because the Republicans control both houses. THAT is the key, the president is merely symbolic when he has no power.
If Bush is elected, or more like when he is elected, finally this country can begin a turn around and start becoming more like AMERICA, less like the socialist piece of crap that Clinton and the liberal democrats would love.
I cannot stand liberal views, they make me want to puke.
Bush will win.
Interestingly the Melbourne Cup (Australia's richest horse race) will be on the same day as the election.
You Yanks can do whatever the hell you want - I know what I'll be watching.
I wouldn't say voting for Nader would make you a complete idiot, just one who's allowed to vote. The sad thing is Nader will more than likely end up tipping the balance in favor of Bush in some key states. Much the same way Perot did in 92. How exactly is Nader a communist? I don't recall him calling for the state to take control of production, religion, and speech. I must have missed something. The guy opposed NAFTA for goodness sakes; something George W. didn't do.
As for Clinton not doing anything I can think of something concrete that my family has benefited from while he's been in office; The Family Medical Leave Act. Can you think of a specific way he's screwed you or are you just spouting Republican rhetoric? And saying the executive branch is irrelevant is just plain silly. When your veto can force the opposing party to go BEYOND their simple majority you still have the upper hand in writing and passing legislation. Since the Republican Revolution of 94 and the Clinton Health Care debacle the Republican congress hasn't had much to cheer about. They took the heat for the government shutdown, the Impeachment scandal cost them 2 Speakers, and in the Congressional elections of 98 they lost seats. The party controlling the Oval Office hasn't gained seats during a mid term election in almost 40 years.
Liberalism is no more a dirty word than conservatism. Give me a moderate Repubican like John McCain or Colin Powel and I'll vote for him. You know what makes me sick? People at EITHER ends of the politcal spectrum. Ultra conservative Christian Coalition nimrods who think Pat Buchanan's hate filled diatribe at the 92 Republican convention was a political revelation on par with the Gettysburg Address make sick to my stomach. Show me a ultra active environmentalist PETA freak and I'll shove a burger right down his throat.
As for this board, 13 votes for Nader and Bush show liberal sentiment is alive and well on this board. Thank goodness, the last thing the world needs is more tight ass conservatives. ;P
I personnally think Clinton has done a good job for you. While Bush was never respected too much over here, Clinton has, despite the Monica Fatchicksky situation. He has helped other countries out well, and has never done anything too stupid. He has also come across as having a good personality, unlike Mr Cue cards Bush. In a way, I wish he could stay on.
Is anyone gonna watch the SNL Campaign special tonight?
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